In reply to Jeff Chandler.

"Well Mr. Negative...."

Seriously??? WTF? You openly admit that you don't have clients Matt (oh...I mean Jeff - easy mistake) yet you think it's ok to put down someone that does.

What makes you think you have the place to even consider talking like that to someone who make his living with WP?

You're becoming more and more a shill for Ma.tt every single day. It's growing very tiring...

Wordpress is going to live or die based on what the dev community at large decides to do with this disaster. My company has 100s of clients invested in WP and I'm gonna be one pissed off MFer if this wanna-be page builder borks everything (obviously the final version will be tested to death before I ever let it near a client site - that alone is going to cost me a small fortune).

We may just end up forking <5.0 and keeping it internal. It might be cheaper for me in the end. Lord knows I can pay my guys to fix bugs rather than test something that will likely never even see the light of day for us.

If there is a mass exodus when 5.0 screws every single WP site on the planet (and it will based on the current trajectory) Wordpress .com AND .org will die a very quick death. King Matt is certainly betting the farm on this 1st generation page-builder.

The competition (Beaver Builder, Divi, etc, etc, etc) is light years ahead and doing a better job than core will EVER be able to do since they can't seem to make any decision unless they argue about it for years. To pull this off with a perfect team would be virtually impossible. With the sorry state that core has been in for years - it's never happen.

Go ahead Matt (argh....Jeff) - feel free to call me Mr. Negative as well. You don't have a butt load of income on the line so what do you care? If WP self-destructs you'll just have more to write about.